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Dueck's testimony at Steele's and Klassen's preliminary hearing

At the preliminary inquiry into charges of criminal defamation against Steele and Klassen:

Sgt Dueck's testimony at the preliminary inquiry proceedings held at the City of Saskatoon, Saskatchewan February 1, 2 and 8, 1995, before the Honourable G.T. Seniuk, a judge of the provincial Court of Saskatchewan.

p. 35

Sgt. George Brian Dueck, having been duly sworn, states:

Ms. Inez Cardinal, Crown Prosecutor, Q & A

Q. Sit, I understand that you're a member of the Saskatoon City Police here in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, is that correct?

A. That's right.

Q. And what rank do you have in that?

A. Sergeant.

Q. And how long have you been employed?

A. Twenty-four years.

Q. And during your employment where are you normally working out of?

A. During my employment now?

Q. Yes.

A. Uniform section.

Q. Okay. And where are your offices located?

A. In the main police building.

Q. Okay. And that's on 4th Avenue North here in Saskatoon?

A. That's right.

Q. Okay. And I understand you had previously in the past been assigned to a section which dealt with complaints of sexual or other abuse of children, is that correct?

A. That's right.

Q. Can you tell us about your employment then through the years?

A. I was assigned to the Youth Section, as a corporal from 1988 to 1991?

Q. Okay. And I understand that, through your involvement there, you became involved in a particular case, is that correct?

A. That's right.

Q. And can you just briefly describe your involvement in that matter?

A. Well an investigation was started with -- in the fall of 1989 and continued through 1990, into approximately July of 1991 when there were numerous charges laid against people, regarding allegations made by children of sexual abuse.

Q. Okay. And during that investigation were you involved at all with a person by the name of Sheila Steele?

A. No, I was not.

Q. Okay. And Richard Klassen?

A. Yes, I was.

Q. Okay. And what was -- did Ms. Steele have any connection to that investigation then?

A. Not as far as I know.

Q. And with respect to Richard Klassen, what connection did he have?

A. There were charges laid against Mr. Klassen.

Q. Okay. And can you just tell us, to your knowledge, what was the result of those charges?

A. I believe those charges were stayed in early 1992, I think it was.

Q. Okay. And had that -- had his matter gone to a Preliminary Hearing, first of all?

A. Yes, it had.

Q. Okay. And then the charges were stayed?

A. That's right.

Q. Now what about with respect to the other people that were involved, can you just tell us generally what happened with their charges, or if there were any charges?

A. There were -- we went to Queen's Bench Court on three adults and they were convicted and, as far as I'm aware, one other adult male pleaded guilty to some charges and the charges against the other people were stayed.

Q. Now, with respect to your knowledge, can you tell us is there any other person by the name of Sergeant Brian Dueck in the Saskatoon City Police?

A. Not to my knowledge, no.

Q. To your knowledge is there any other police officers bearing that name?

A. No.

Q. And with respect now to the charges that are -- I want to back up a bit. You know a person by the name of Carol Bunko-Ruys, is that correct?

A. Yes, I do.

Q. And what can you tell us about first of all who she is and what her involvement was, if any, in the investigtion you mentioned that had gone to Queen's Bench and things?

A. Carol Bunko-Ruys is a child therapist, she's with a group called Community Child Care Services. She was a therapist assigned or hired by Social Services to deal with three of the complainants that we had in this file.

Q. And do you know of any other therapist in the city by the name of Carol Bunko-Ruys?

A. No, I do not.

Q. And she worked with that investigation, right?

A. That's right.

Q. That resulted in some pleading guilty and some matters being stayed?

A. That's right.

Q. Can you now tell us -- now you -- you're aware of the matter that's before the Court?

Q. Mmhmm.

Q. I want you to tell us, first of all were you aware of what was happening in the area of the police station on August 24, 1994?

A. No, I was not.

Q. Okay. So what can you tell us about how you came to be aware of this matter?

A. I received a call, a radio call, from -- I was out in the patrol car, from Constable Chartier.

Q. Okay. And that's on August 24, 1994?

A. I believe that wa the day, yeah.

Q. Okay. And without getting into what Constable Charter said, what did you do?

A. Basically, that I learned that there were people in front of the police station carrying placards or placard signs. Some of them related to the -- to the case that I'd been involved in and named myself and Carol Bunko-Ruys in particular. I was advised of what the signs said and advised Constable Charter at that time that the people carrying those signs could be charged with defamatory libel.

Q. Okay. And did you actually see the picketing taking place then or (INAUDIBLE)?