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Carol Bunko-Ruys Reports (Sept. 3, 1991)

The Klassen story: Breaking through to the public

December 4, 1989 | November 16, 1990 | April 26, 1991 report | September 3, 1991

These links lead to just a few of the drawings and writings produced by the Ross children during Carol Bunko-Ruys' therapy

Kathy's therapy assignments: "Dear Carol" | Report on the day Michael raped her in Carol Bunko's office | Michelle's cries for help written during "therapy": Help | An Academy Award? | Michael's letters and drawings: Letter written in Carol Bunko's therapy room when she "stepped out" | Signature on the back of this letter | "Knifes" | Black candle | Blood diagram | Sorry | Michael's angels and devils | Spinning his wheels

Carol Bunko-Ruys

What follows is Carol Bunko-Ruys' entire report dated Sept. 3, 1991. See also theThompson papers. At the Preliminary Hearing of the charges against the natural parents, Bunko was sworn in as an expert witness:

Page 52, line 17, (Volume # 1)
(Q. Miazga) And you're a member of the Adlerian Society?
(A. Bunko-Ruys) Yes. ...
The Adlerian Society is based in Saskatoon and they provide a lot of information on Adlerian psychology, they're involved in parenting workshops in the City. (Official Court Transcript)

715 Broadway Avenue, Saskatoon, Sask. S7N 1B3
Telephone (306) 652-0744

Michael Ross, D.O.B.: October 18, 1979 | Age: 11 years
Cathy Ross, D.O.B.: March 4, 1982 | Age: 9 years
Michelle Ross, D.O.B. March 4, 1982, Age: 9 years

STATUS: All children are permanent wards

PLACEMENT: Marilyn and Lyle Thompson, Box 170, Warman, Saskatchewan, PHONE: 242-2934

SCHOOL PLACEMENT: Warman Elementary | Principal - John Reddekopp | Program Consultant: Cathy Muttart | Ed. Assistant - Diane Jasnoch

D.S.S. WORKER: Liz Newton
CITY POLICE CONTACT: Constable Brian Dueck
WRITER: Carol Bunko-Ruys

PERIOD OF INVOLVEMENT: May 1, 1991 - August 29, 1991

DATE OF REPORT: September 3, 1991

(Note this document is for confidential purposes only. Direct any Questions or concerns to writer)

September 3 , 1991 (this report is only partially reproduced)

INTRODUCTION: (Note: This update follows report dated: December 4, 1989 | November 16, 1990 | April 26, 1991 report

Over the past four months, writer has continued involvement with the Ross children both individually and as a group. During May and June, contact was provided weekly. Over the summer months, contact was less frequent.

The Ross children continue to present disfunctional behaviors consitent with other children having experienced severe trauma. They require ongoing therapeutic involvement to assist both emotional and social development. While periods of regression are noted, the Ross children continue to make progress regarding their overall level of functioning. With that in mind, the following is presented for the purpose of update.

Sexual Behavior - A period of approximately four months passed where it appeared that the Ross children had not victimized each other (mid-January - mid - May). The success of this goal most likely can be attributed to the highly structured plan in place at that time (i.e. buzzers on bedroom doors at night, close supervision). During May and June, the children reported occasional incidents of abuse amongst each other. Two patterns consistent in the cycle seem to be Michael's choice to victimize Michelle and Michelle's choice to victimize Cathy. On occasion, both Michael and Michelle have reported agreeable sexual participation with each other. In response to this regression, writer held a group session in late June which focused on the victim-perpetrator cycle noted within this sibling group. The overall nature of this session was highly confrontational. Near the end of the session, the children were instructed to record their plan as a group. Writer left the room briefly and listened outside the door. After initial sounds related to anger (chair banging), the children were talking about the new plan. While this session appeared to impact Michael in particular, the girls later told the Thompsons that Michael had sexually abused them in the writer's absence. Michael denied this initially and later confirmed the allegations.

Since that time, Michelle and Cathy have made a great deal of progress in dealing with the pattern of abuse developed between themselves. Cathy began to tell the Thompsons each time Michelle touched her. Prior to this July, Cathy was unable to move out of her role as a victim in order to let others know. Michelle has also worked hard on her touching problem. Thus the girls have been able to share a room for the summer months without further incident.

It is also noted that the Ross children have developed a similar pattern in their daily functioning which appears consistent to the cycle of abuse established amongst themselves. It appears that only one of the children can make healthy choices at a time, leaving the other two in a victim role. This further leads to what appears as "set up" behavior by those currently in the role of victims. Thus, the person doing well is pressured into again joining the others by making poor choices. This cycle seems to repeat itself approximately every two to three weeks. Earlier in the year, this cycle seemed to repeat quicker. In the past couple of months, the Ross children have experienced brief periods where they all maintin health choice-making at the same time. While this cycle remains of concern to writer, progress is noted. The overall nature os this cycle seems to be based on power and control which is frequently noted in children who have experienced abuse.

Unlike other children their age, Michael, Michelle and Cathy have been unable to participate in structured activities related to an area of interest. This has largely been due to the need for close supervision to prevent sexual abuse of other children. The benefit of such participation is noted in terms of it's potential to enhance social skill development for each child. This is a necessary area to further explore. It is hoped that each child will be involved in an appropriate activity over the next few months. In selecting such activities, consideration must be given to the provision of adequate supervision (i.e. small group or individual lessons).


Continues to make progress regarding dysfunctional behaviors and issues (longer periods of positive choice-making, development of a more positive sense of self as he experiences internal control over dysfunctional behavior).

Experiences periods of regression which include sexually abusing his siters. Writer remains extremely concerned as Michael appears somewhat obsessive during these periods. He recently requested to cRoss dress in one session. Such requests have certainly decreased while they seemed connected to his abusive cycle. Writer attempted to have Michael explore this notion opposed to actually dressing up. He was able to accept the plan and gained insight regarding this need as part of a larger problem. Writer notes a time when Michael would not have made this choice. Rather he would hae been upset and become angry with writer for denying his request.

Recently noted to modeling himself after the older Thompron boys (i.e. wanting to dress like them, participate in similar activities). This suggests a connection within the family as well as a choice to develop more age appropriate skills.

Michael has again been urinating on articles of clothing and hiding them in the past month. This raises problems in that Michael has ruined several items of clothing. He has been requested to rinse the articles out and have them laundered. This behavior was noted earlier in the year. Michael was able to control the urge for a period of time.

Continue to provide Michael with opportunities to explore issues and concerns related to past victimization.

Given the concern regarding Michael's potential for ongoing abuse as a perpetrator, writer recommends further support services be considered. Michael turns twelve years old next month and is at risk to become involved in the young offender system should he continue to abuse. Thus, as part of an upcoming psychological at MacNeill clinic, Michael's potential as a candidate for the offenders group should be considered.

To date, writer has not provided Michael with any information regarding his disclosures of what appears to be consistent with others having experienced Ritual abuse. Following consultation with others involved (i.e. Department of Social Services, Crown Prosecutor's office) writer suggests providing enough information to allow Michael a cognitive framework to assist him in understanding what he has experienced. Michael is at a developmental stage where this could be of great benefit. Michael continues to feel he is "bad" and responsible for his participation in extremely traumatic events.

continues to make progress in several areas (i.e. more positive sense of self, ability to move out of victims role in certain situations.)

During times of regression, Cathy presents in defiant and closed manner. This style of copying remains rather entrenched at this time. This style gets in the way of Cathy developing positive relationships with others.

Recently Cathy was noted to have been urinating in the clothes. This behavior was discussed in previous update. Prior to this regression, Cathy had gone through a period of approximately three months where this did not occur.

Cathy has recently stated occasional feelings of wanting to touch others. Prior to these statements, Cathy has often denied having a touching problem.

Over the past four months, Cathy has returned to a theme that includes monsters or vampires with blood dripping down the chin. This was noted in drawings, masks and actual face painting. While Cathy has not discussed any connection to actual experiences, her need to master this theme may be of significance.

Continue to provide opportunities for Cathy to work through past trauma through the use of dress-up, play and art.

Support Cathy's development toward a healthier set of coping behaviors (i.e. express frustration, anger and fear rather than act them out).

Continue to explore the extent of Cathy's potential to abuse others. Having Admitted to this problem, Cathy is in a position to receive further intervention at this time.

Has worked very hard on her touching problem over the past two months. She has developed a sense of seriousness regarding her problem which was not evident in prior months. Michelle willingly participates in exercises provided to deal with this issue. In the past, Michelle would whine.

Michelle is very proud of present accomplishments regarding dysfunctional behavior. This is adding to her development of a healthier sense of self.

Continues to demonstrate a dysfunctional coping style when stressed (i.e. manipulates.).

Overall, Michelle continues to make progress, while periods of regression are noted.

Continue to support Michelle progress regarding her touching problem - both as a victim and perpetrator.

Provide ongoing opportunities to work through issues related to past trauma.

Support Michelle's growth toward a healthier coping style.

The Ross are aware that charges have been laid by the Saskatoon City Police.To date they have met once as a group with the Crown prosecutor. This meeting was at writer's office to provide a less formal initial meeting. The children will begin meeting with the prosecutor on an intial basis for the purpose of court preparation.

Each of the children have expressed fear worry related to the upcoming court. The children will require a great deal of emotional support over the next few months as court dates are set for late November and early December.

The Ross children had a successful year at school with each child passing their grade. Dysfunctional behaviors and need for supervision remain a concern for the 1991 -2 school year. The children will continue to receive close supervision during free time (i.e. recess, lunch). Both Michael and Michelle have been provided with an aide.

Writer is aware that Liz Newton will provide ongoing consultation with school personnel. Writer will not participate in this process unless requested by Department of Social Services for specific situations that may arise.

The Thompsons also continue to provide ongoing contact with the school. This continues to be useful in the overall functioning of these children.

During the past few months, the Ross children have continued to make progress. However, writer remains concerned with their inability to stop victimizing each other. This factor must be reviewed occasionally and considered in planning for these children. The benefits of keeping siblings together is highly supported by the writer. However, if that arrangement continues to impede progress, alternate options could be explored. The use of respite on short-term separate placements may allow the children to develop their individual strengths at a greater rate. Writer is not recommending any action to be taken at this time. Rather, that this particular issue be considered and evaluated periodically. These children require support and intervention best suited to meet their needs. With that in mind, the following recommendations are made:

That writer continue involvement with the Ross children on a bi-monthly basis should outlined treatment goals be extended, writer would request more frequent intervention. However, given the length of involvement, it is writer's experience that children benefit from less intensive work for periods of time.

That writer continue participation in consultation with the Thompsons and D.S.S. on a bi-monthly basis. Liz Newton informed writer of her plan to meet with the Thompsons on a weekly basis for the purpose of providing support and to develop behavior management plans.

The writer provide consultation with personnel from MacNeill clinic for the purpose of sharing information related to referral for psychological testing.

Terms of treatment

That a total of 21 sessions be provided to the Ross children over the period of September 5 to November 29, 1991.

That a total of 7 sessions be provided for consultation with D.S.S. and Thompsons over a period of September 5 to November 29, 1991.

Given the upcoming court, writer will be required to use additional sessions. The number of sessions is difficult to determine at this time.

Respectfully submitted:

Carol Bunko-Ruys


The confidential purposes to which Carol Bunko-Ruys refers could fall into the category of "bad secrets." Good secrets are ones that don't hurt anybody and bad ones hurt the keeper of the secret or others, according to the therapy used by Bunko and others. By disclosing this document, inJusticebusters does Ms. Bunko-Ruys the service of unloading from her a guilty secret. By jettisoning this baggage, she can make the first step to becoming an honest individual.